Comments on: The (Projected) Winners For Governor And Township Committee

By: ex-Lakewooder

ex-Lakewooder — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:54:49 +0000

Lakewooder:
You are sadly disillusioned if you think earning $25,000 is considered “breaking even”. The idea of working, and this is clearly a foreign concept to you, is to PAY YOUR BILLS! For many years now, people have been working so that they can LIVE! That means paying rent, tuition, food bills, health insurance, etc. (Beside the point, you’d have to earn slightly more than minimum wage to not make more than $25,000 a year, an unlikely scenario as it is)
I must have missed the announcement that it’s ok to sit back and relax at the expense of your shver and the government. Having someone else pay your way through life is definitely not the way to break the povety cycle for your children!
If you are only learning because it’s not “worth it” to work because the free cash won’t flow in, you may want to take a moment to rethink if that is the place for you right now.
Take a look around you. Those who are successful monetarily are not sitting back because “it’s not worth it”. They are out there hustling to earn a buck to provide for their families. THAT is the way to break the poverty cycle.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:46:50 +0000

could we get the govenor election results district by district for lakewood ?

By: Newcomer to Lakewood

Newcomer to Lakewood — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:52:41 +0000

I just moved to Lakewood a week ago…. who are these Vaad people? What is a Vaad? What is everyone talking about? Is there someone in town other than the LAC that advises the public on polititcal issues?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:43:34 +0000

Who is he going to run against? Langert? That’s change simply for change’s sake, no real gain. Singer? Good luck ever getting anything out of Trenton if you make an enemy of him. Coles? He’s a great friend of the community and likely one of the most fair minded and straight shooting politician you’ll ever meet, you’d be foolish to replace him.

By: Economist

Economist — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:40:47 +0000

Paradoxically, the solution to that problem is to extend modest benefits to the lower middle class such that families transitioning from poverty and full benefits won’t face a disincentive to breaking the cycle and becoming self-supporting.

Studies show that by extending the upper income limits for eligibility for benefits (albeit at far reduced levels), the cost of funding programs would actually go down because far more families would be able to break the cycle and get off programs entirely (far offsetting the modest increased expense of exending the additional benefits to these families while in the transistion).

Having a hard and fast line between eligibility and lack of eligibility which hovers right above the poverty line disincents families from ever becoming self-supporting and costs society tremendously, not to mention effectively trapping these families on the government dole.

That’s why the JerseyCare model from 10 years ago featured levels of participation for working families significantly above the poverty line – the benefits levels were slight, but it helped families get over the hump. Under a later administration, benefits were cut back to only the poorest of the poor, leaving many without coverage altogether, obviously an untenable situation. Recently, coverage levels were expanded, but still not to the extent that once existed – currently most who need coverage receive it, but transitioning families are left in the cold – a clear disincentive to leaving the program.

By: real change will come

real change will come — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:23:06 +0000

Hey tls who got the write ins?
If you think this year was lively just wait till next november. There’s going to be a new guy running.and the vaad won’t want to support him because he wants to stop all the games being played. But most of the oilam will know he only cares about the people of lakewood and is impartial. The seniors will all vote for him too. That is going to be the real test to see the power of the vaad and whether the lac is just full of hot air and doesn’t want to go aginst them.a year from now it is going to be exciting.and can bring some real changes I really hope this guy runs.

By: Lakewooder

Lakewooder — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:21:00 +0000

Listen, I am on programs, and would love to get off. The problem is that I would need to make $25,000 just to break even, because as soon as I begin working I will lose $25,000 in benefits. Additionally, I will be paying taxes, my tuition will go up, no kollel check, no shver supporting me anymore etc. It’s just not worth it for me to go to work.

If Christie can somehow make it easier to work, lower taxes, etc. it would help the turnover from welfare recepient to hard working citizen.

And I definitely dread my kids being in this same cycle of poverty.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:13:57 +0000

to gov’t is not your daddy
be happy that you have parnassah from hashem stop boasting about it and talk down to the less fortunate than you who depend on govt social programs the privatr sector benefits more when the govt gives out money so look very carefully wher u get your money from.

By: berel

berel — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:00:15 +0000

i want a list of the wrute ins also to point out to the people the vaad got maybe 2000 votes

By: ex-Lakewooder

ex-Lakewooder — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:41:12 +0000

It would behoove many people who post on this site to do some fact-checking before rattling off statements that do not even begin to be true. This is the type of behavior that creates unnecessary panic and destruction.
Additionally, do not be naive enough to think that this blog (or Lakewood and her politics, for that matter) is exclusive to religious Jews. Anything posted on the world wide web is accessible to ANYONE and that is something you might keep in mind before creating a very public machlokes. The chillul H-shem created here is immesurable. Maybe the nisayon of this year’s election was to see if frum yidden can band together as a tzibbur to do what is right for Kavod Shamayim, instead of jumping on the bandwagon of machlokes, name-slaying, and blatant Lashon Hora. The issues of this years election pale in comparison to the issue of Chillul H-shem which is death cannot even atone for.
We should all be eternally grateful to this incredible country which offers us such grand opportunity, and allows us to exercise our rights and actually have a say in these issues. What we do with those rights should prove that we are deserving of them, and not chas v’sholom reflect badly on our community as a whole.
God Bless America!

By: go yanks

go yanks — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:39:46 +0000

Pedro is going to be a bust , Paaarty tonight!!!!!

By: Gov't. is not your Daddy

Gov't. is not your Daddy — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:30:33 +0000

The gov’t. is not a charitable organization and Christie is right. People have come to depend on the gov’t. to bail them out in time of need and think it is the gov’t.’s duty to run social programs. Where is the money from those programs supposed to come from? From the pockets of those who pay taxes! This is unconstitutional, it is taxation without representation. You can’t have it both ways, either the gov’t. is a constitutional republic or we just abolish the constitution and become a socialist third world country.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:13:44 +0000

Can you please post, or at least post a link, where we can see every Lakewood district voting results? The oilum is very interested to know the details. Thank you.

By: chaim

chaim — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:35:05 +0000

remember everyone to support tls and its advertisers that at least regarding the governer the tls wasn’t biased with the vaad that let this open discussion if just the tls won’t be biased regarding local elections it would deserve double support and it can be open with out lashon hara if the tls would let comments that are not lashon hara go through regarding local why doesn’t the tls let everyone know why it doesn’t let comments on local go through

By: Ben Eliezer

Ben Eliezer — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:09:23 +0000

The yankees will have a hrd time tonite. Petite is not good on 3 days rest and the phils are on a roll. we need to make an atzeres tefillah. This is far more important than governor and SS marriage.