Baruch Dayan Ha’emes – Shelly Kammerman Z’L- Reserve A Mishnah

shelly with shopperBARUCH DAYAN HA’EMES: [UPDATED 10:35 p.m. – Levaya Info] We regret to inform you of the passing of Shaul (Shelly) Kammerman Z’L, who passed away a short time ago at a Brick nursing home. “Shelly”, the man who made all those exciting $1 raffles at BMG and other Yeshivas and Camps around the Tri-State area, was born in Lakewood and lived here all his life. He suffered many Yisurim (hardships) during his lifetime.

He was in his sixties.

Levaya information will be posted when available. Baruch Dayan Ha’emes.

UPDATE: Click here to view a Mishnayos chart (courtesy of Misaskim), should you wish to reserve a portion of Mishnayos in Shelly’s memory. (Mishnah (in Hebrew), the Seforim say, is the same letters as Nishama indicating that it is a great Z’chus for the Niftar).

URGENT UPDATE: 7:40 p.m.The Chevrah Kadishahas requested that anyone with knowledge of any relatives next of kin of Shelly Z’L, should please contact us at [email protected], so that the Chevrah Kadishacan proceed with the Burial. Tizku L’miztvos.

UPDATE: 10:35 p.m. The Levaya for Shelly Z’L will be held tomorrow morning, at the Holocaust Memorial Chapel on East 7th Street (Between Brook Road and Somerset Avenue) at 10:00 a.m.

The Kevurah will be taking place at the Beth David Cemetery in Elmont, NY

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93 COMMENTS

  2. Shelly, We all knew you like a brother, not just here in Lakewood but in Y.T.V. in brooklyn as well. Your character was unique and entertaining. You always made people smile. Unfortunatly many of us including myself, took the entertainment part a bit over the edge, and for that I ask “Mechila”. May your neshome rest in the highest place near the “kisei Hakovod.

  7. BD”E , i SAW HIS CAR PARKED OUTSIDE OF SATMAR with his famous “shelly” plates on them and was wondering why it was just sitting this for the past week or so. May his neshoma have an aliya

  9. Did you ever watch him picking the raffle? Did you ever see, as I did, the great lengths to which we went to ensure that no ticket was caught in the corner of the envelope, that every entry should be counted? Did you ever hear the stress in his voice as he made sure that the tickets were thoroughly mixed, beyond a shadow of a doubt?

    Such a baal yesurim, and yet with such a sense of humor.
    Yehi Zichro Baruch

  11. part of our childhood memories will always be of shelly sitting in the old dinning room at the front table doing his raffle.i think alot of us lakewood boys may have to ask him michila.

  18. #2
    your comments it home hard, it really brought back memories from the 80’s when i was a teenager

    if someone can post his hebrew name so that i can learn something in his honor that would be appreciated

    May his soul rest in peace

  20. I think at this point all people pondering on how gr8 a person Shelly was and his good points should try and encourage their children (and themselves) in his zechus try to tolerate and respect others even if they look and act a little different.

  22. Now that Shelly is no longer with us, I think we can all look back and think how if there was perhaps a way we could have treated him better. Imagine if you knew two weeks ago that Shelly had two more weeks to go, would you have said “Good Morning” nicer to him in front of Satmar when he was begging for just a dollar?

    I know I would have.

    For me this is a big lesson. Every person that one meets, think about how much better one can be to him. Even just a smile, a “good morning” and yes, a dollar when they need it. You never know…… this may be your last chance to make this Yiddishe Neshama feel good.

  29. I echo the comments, I unfortunately can remember poking fun at him and having fun at his expense. I cant ask him mechila in person anymore, but there is a concept of asking after the petirah in front of a rabim, which this forum probably qualifies as. Also, I was motivated to think along these lines by the sensitive comments of #2 and others, and that is a toeles that translates over the internet as well.
    Shelly, I am sorry for not treating you right. May the yisurim you had to go through here stand you in good stead in the olam hanitzchi.
    Ari Davis

  32. In the last years, he was a steady at many restaurants in lakewood. Every day he would go to another one for lunch/dinner. Thank you to all those people who brought him food.

  33. Its so nice to c how many pep feel bad for him now but how many pep made fun of him and how many pep sent him away from making a few dollars bec they just didn’t want him collecting in there shul.

  35. BD”H
    Part of our childhood years, like so many other personalities that are gone by now.
    As mentioned above, he always had a smile and a good word.
    Zol ehr hoben a lichtige gan eiden

  37. I remember as a kid growing in the old lakewood my father used to invite him and his mother for a shabbos meal he will be missed I would like to go to the funeral to ask for forgiveness I defiantly when I was a kid did not treat him with respect

  39. Although I haven’t seen him in a long time, I will definitely miss him. I remember him for over 35 years and how he was always talking about wanting to meet his bashert. I used to give him food from tine to time also. He was such a unique personality. BD”E
    I hope levaya info will be posted.

  40. Can we get a Mishnayos chart going so we can finish Shisha Sidrei Mishna for him by the sheloshim?

    I will bli neder learn Mishnayos maseches Sotah.

    Please provide exact name and date of shlshim.

  41. Its so freeky, just last week he was sitting in front of satmer and i was talking tohim for a while and he kept on telling me that he bought a plot in Queens NY, and that after he dies he doesnt want anyone to take him to Israel.

  42. does the moderator think that comments abut this persons neshama are appreciated by this mans neshama dont you realize that all these comments are meaningless words that are being mivazeh the meis even before kevurah THINK A LITTLE AND DISABLE COMMENTS

  43. I will never forget you Shelley. The first day of the first Zman that I ever walked into yeshiva I bought a raffle from you. By the time I showed up in the dining room for lunch I was being asked by everyone if I was Hershel Herskowitz. I didn’t know what was going on. Then I heard you shouting in the dining room “Hoishel Hoishkowitz you’re the winnah!” For the next few weeks I was known in yeshiva as Hoishel Hoishkowitz the winnah. Twenty three years later every time I walk into Bagel Nosh my good friend shouts out that same refrain. I will always remember our fun conversations. You were truly a part of Lakewood and BMG and you will be remembered by thousands. Lakewood will not be the same without you.

  45. Although Mishnayos is an ideal tikkun, perhaps we can add one other toiva we can do for Shelly. The best way of showing remorse for one’s actions is to not do it again. Let’s me mekabeil, lillui nishmaso, to think of one person who we need to treat more respectfully – and do so!

  46. I had some tough moments with him over the course of time At Satmar shull but always worked it out with him. B’H I was zoche to give him a helping hand while he was collecting a few days ago. That will be my last memory of him. Thank you Shelly OB’M for giving me this Zchus! Go before the Kisei Hacovod And tell H-shem how much you suffered, and plead for all of us down here who all need a Yeshuah! Remember all though some of us didnt treat you with enough care and concern,REMEMBER HOW MANY REALLY WENT BEYOND THEIR PATIENCE AND TRIED HARD TO MAKE YOUR LIFE A BIT EASIER! REMEMBER HATZOLAH!!! REMBER cHAVEIRIM!!! AND MOST IMPORTANTLY REMEMBER bIKUR CHOLIM VOL. WHO REALLY WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  47. Thank You Hashem that You made me have a good chinuch and that I never made fund of Shelly. Thank You that in the 30 or so years I have been here, it would never occur to me to be mevazeh him to his face. Too bad I wasn’t yotzei Asey Tove with him, but at least I was mekayem Sur Mera.

  48.  
    Are you for real? I can’t believe it!!! 

    Some of the comments on this thread  are the most sensitive and genuine that I have ever seen on the scoop.

    May Shelly be meilitz yosher to all of klal Yisrael that are rachmonin bnei rachmonim.
     
    And, may Shelly be moichel and meilitz yoisher to all the people that expressed remorse and had hirhurei teshuvah.
    TNZBH   

  49. shelly i may have made a joke or two about you when u came to my yeshiva in boro park many years ago i hope you will be moichel me and may you be a meilitz yoisher for all of klal yisrael.

  50. People must realize an Alter Bucher is lonely, & in our community where one weds & has nachas from children, someone who didn’t is going to feel unhappy. To add to it this individual A”H was not well physically & emotionly.
    There would be kids & even yungerleit [who had nothing better to do with their time] who would verbally emotionally abuse Shelly in public, until tears.
    I remember one mushchas who got pleasure from those tears & would would say come on cry & things like that.
    One should know that hurting the feelings of a person who has no one[wife & kids, parents ] who is the age that people already have grandchildren, is not simple onoas devorim. Look at Rashi on Kol almona veyosoim loi sanun, & the Rambam in hilchos deyois on that mitzvah, see the hagoas maimonis who quotes Rashi.
    Add it all up & be very careful with older singles.
    Shelly had what to wake up for, because some little children were very nice to him, they smiled & said nice things & some generous Yungerleit who fed him & carried him around, they helped fill a void in a very miserable life. However others see above what they did.
    NB:
    I believe he has a sister in Sheeps Head Bay, I don’t know her family name, he claimed he had nothing to do with her. He also told me he grew up in Sheeps Head Bay as a kid.

  52. Shelly, you suffered so much, but made everyone around you smile. I am touched by the emotional responses your petirah has brought.I hope that many will attend your Kovod Achron.You will never be forgotten.

  53. I’m pleased to say that I never poked fun at him and I had the zechus to wish him a good morning with a smile this past week. One thing we can all learn from this is that parents should teach their kids at a young age how to have respect to others. It is sickening and evil the way some kids around town treated him. In my opinion that reflects on the parents. May Shelly be a malitz yosher to all klal yisrael BDE

  54. When I was a child I too would find myself poking fun at his expense. Sometime as I grew up I realized that hashem is the avi hayesomim and that really scared me. I was mekabel to always treat him with respect and did my best. When I got a little older I made the effort to even try to help him. I helped him to his car a few times and helped set up his table for his raffles once in a while. Listened to him talk about his yesurim etc. But I’m happy I at least caught myself and can feel like I treated him with respect. I have taers in my eyes now and I’ll just say that whenever I meet the next “shelly” I will remember now is the time to do chesed and not chas veshalom the oposite. Before its too late R”L. May shelly be a mailitz yosher for all of us in lakewwod and the olam hayeshivos and when you are before the kisay hakavod please only remember the chesed that we showed you.

  56. I remember when shelly lived on eleventh and forest across from the new klienman B”M. He had that famous station wagon with the shelly lisence plates. I remember as a Boy watching others not treat him with the proper kovod. How much I contributed I can’t remember I hope not too much. I tried, I hope I did enough. I knew this sad day would arrive one day and I knew one day shelly would arrive in shomayim and say over all his tzaros R”L. I shuddered at the thought that I might CH”V have contributed to his suffering. I hope I did enough. I haven’t seen him in years now but I do remember shmoozing with him a little here and there. He told me he was a certified auctoneer and that he was an accountant and I actually remember him doing some book keeping for someone in yeshivas dining room a few times. He was EXREMELY honest about his raffles he would tell you exactly how much he paid for the item and how much profit he was going to make he made sure you wrote your number on the ticket and sometimes people offered to write shellys name on the ticket so if he won he could keep it. and he would always say “no I want people to enjoy it”. He was always asking for suggestions as to what to raffle next he wanted to make people happy. I actually enjoyed shmoozing with him from time to time. The simcha in his voice as he announced the winner was unbelievable. I don’t remember when I “grew up” and realized how to act properly,I just hope it was soon enough. Its so sad…- would love to go to the levaya. And I think a huge lavaya would be the ultimate way for all to show that we respect every fellow yid and I’m sure a lot of people feel like he was a figure in their life he is one of those that I will never forget.

  57. Shelly, I may have made a joke or two about you when you came to my yeshiva in…. many years ago. I hope you will be moichel me. May you be a meilitz yoisher for all of klal yisrael.

  58. i would see him all the time pull up to steak out and lil motti moherman would run out and take his order, then bring him his food to the parking space and not take a cent from him. now that alone is enlighteneing and we all should support steakout for this deed

  59. Shelly…I truly miss you…I enjoyed all the long talks we had in satmer, and previously in BMG…..you had such a bright mind. you had shtaltz…you never just took a dollar…you always had a raffle in return…..I am glad I always bought a raffle or 2 from you….B’H I can safely say…I always gave you the proper respect & honor that you deserved. Shelly I just beg of you..when you go to shomayim..Please be moichel all the people that did NOT give you the proper respect. Please be moichel all the people that chepperd you. I am sure that all those people are crying now with regret that they hurt your feelings….Please forgive them…they are not bad people..they were just not sensitive enough..and were not aware of what the Aveiro is from hurting another yidisher person..Shelly..I beg you ..Please don’t be mekatreg on the people that hurt you….they regret this now beyond tears…. I m so glad that I visited you in Kimball Hospital a few months ago with my son….I m glad you enjoyed the fresh supper my wife prepared, with the fresh chocolate cake freshly baked….I just saw you in satmer 2 days ago on a wheel chair….I m glad I gave you a check….the only mechila I need to ask you personally is I just saw you 2 days ago in satmer..I m glad I gave you a check…but if I knew it would have been the last time that I would have seen you..I would have made that check much bigger…for that I ask you mechila..B’H I can safely say…the last 35 plus year that I knew you. I never cheppered you or was disrespectful to you…you know that I did plenty for you..all I ask…in return for what I did for you…please. I beg you..Please be moichel all the people that pained you..please..if you be moichel them…then HKB’H will also be moichel anything that you did… I will say iy’h some kadish for you..I hope others will join me as well…and I hope everyone learns from you Shelly….that one needs to be respectful to a fellow brother..May you be a melitz yoisher to klall yisroel..Omen

  60. shelly, there will never be another shelly,
    you were a mirror for us to look deep into ourselves,
    if we poked fun – it’s because we were growing, not quite there yet,
    if we behaved – it’s because we were shtayging,

    shelly, i hope you’re moichel me for having a little innocent fun at your expense.
    shelly, may your neshama – filled with yisurim, and with giving others incredible opportunities to do chesed – be elevated “tachas kanfei hashechina!

  63. I also have to ask him mechilah. Let this be a lesson, mehayoim veholo, any person like shelly, or any other yid, or person should be treated with respect. If anyone on this blog is going to the levaya, pls ask mechila from him from all of us. Just say a blanket statement, “Shelly pls be moichel anyone who teased you or didn’t show you proper respect”. Let’s all learn at least one mishneh liluy nishmosoi.

  64. All I can say is wow!!
    How correct you are in your assessment. 
    Most of the comments pertaining to the passing of Shelly are heartfelt and sincere. 
    Some people relayed their good memories of the raffle, while others expressed remorse in the event they slighted him. 

    These hergaishim are good since charata is one of the fundamental elements of teshuva.
      
    Additionally, there were other posters that were impressed by the way Shelly was ehrlich in his raffle. As the mishneh says in Avos:”Havey loimed m’kohl adam”.  
     
    All I can say is: Mee ke’amcha Yisrael    

  65. Shelly I once bought u a soup to warm u up pls do me 1 favor and step up & ask what’s taking so long for moshiach to arrive ? Also ask for haztlocha bechol inyunim -M

  66. Shelly I want to ask you mechila, i still remember bringing you food from the Bais HaTavshil, and all the other things.
    But still i must say that i was not so carefull when it came to making fun.
    Shelly please be mochel me
    TNZBH

  68. Shelly, I always appreciated when you came to Yeshiva to sell raffle tickets. Your colorful personality always brightened my mood.

    I noticied how you suffered, yet you always kept a smile on your face and always were honest with your raffles. You suffered from health related issues, yet you always tried. You suffered from lack of parnassah, yet you always tried. You did not learn in a yeshiva, yet you were machshiv lomdei torah. Shelly, you have taught me a lot.

    My son unfortunately will not have the z’chus of meeting you. He will not be able to see how happy and determined you were despite the yissurim you suffered.

    TNTB”H

  69. One name that wasn’t mentioned here is Harav Shmuel Leib Eizikovitz Shlita. He single handedly did so much for Shelly for so many years, it’s unbelieveable. From bringing him supper out to his car, to coming to take back the used utensils and garbage, to helping come to daven and say Kaddish when he had Yahrtzeit, etc. etc. I can go on and on. And always with unbelieveable patience. May he be a Meilitz Yosher for him, and all those that truly helped out.

  73. Honestly, I thought this story would get, like, 6 comments. Now we’re @ 70 & going strong. And the oilam is in a massive teshuvah & charatah-kabbalah mood. Nisht Poshut. May this, along w/ his immense amount of yesurim, be a z’chus for his neshama.

  75. I remember him hanging out with a man named “Howey” from Canada
    Both always seemed down on there luck. I would give them money if I had it or buy them food. Both were very kind people. May God keep him in his care now

  77. if I remeber correctly- the shulchan aruch states that mechila must be asked from the niftar( deceased) in front of 10 people!
    either at the levaya or go out to the cemetery
    anyone going to the levaya that can perform this task would do a great thing for all os kll yisroel!

    please learn mishnayos for shaul ben chaim- tnzbh

  79. if I remeber correctly- the shulchan aruch states that mechila must be asked from the niftar( deceased) in front of 10 people!
    either at the levaya or go out to the cemetery
    anyone going to the levaya that can perform this task would do a great thing for all os kll yisroel!

    please learn mishnayos for shaul ben chaim- tnzbh

  85. At the levaya Satmar dayan & R’ Reich ask mechilla in the name of the entire kehilla. A request was made to the entire kehilla to me moichel Shelly as well.

  86. choshuv levaya. the chapel was full on the mens side. Rabbis Tendler, Reich and the Satmar Dayan delivered hartzige hespedim. As Rabbi Tendler said, we should all be jealous of Shellys place in the Olam Haemes.

  88. He had the wildest business card back in the day. All his occupations were listed. I don’t remember them all, but they included shadchan, auctioneer, bookkeeper and buffalo rancher. No joke. I remember his mother too. Oh boy.

  90. I remember when he would come to the yeshiva in Scranton. He would hold his raffles and would always be meticulous and honest about them.
    All he ever asked for was a little help and dignity. I too join in those who think that as a zchus we should all try to be a little nicer and more understanding to those who are different than us.
    Shelly, you will be missed. May you have much peace in Gan Eden.

  92. shelly i am so sorry i made fun of u in public and imitated u to make latzanos,please from my bottom of my heart please be moichel me.from now on i will try not to make fun of others and mimick them.may your soul rest in piece

  93. Mishna for shelly says:
    November 4, 2010 at 6:34 pm
    PLEASE POST:

    If you are intrested in learninglmishnayos L’zaicher nishmas “SHELLY” (Shaul Ben Chaim)for his shloshim Please email your mishnayos requests to [email protected]

    Thank You
    Sholem Egert
    Mishna for shelly

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