The Lakewood Mosdos’ 9th grade for girls will remain closed on Monday, Askonim tell TLS.
“A lot of progress was made, but as of now not everyone is in,” one of the lead Askonim told TLS. “The Roshei Yeshiva just informed the Mosdos that 9th grade cannot start tomorrow.”
As of Friday, nine girls were without a school.
“We will continue to work thru the night,” the Askan said.
UPDATE 10:20PM: Bais Kayla, under the auspices or Rabbi Schenkolewski, has just announced the will not be opening the entire school tomorrow.
”We cannot begin he school year without the participation of all of our students,” Rabbi Schenkolewski told TLS.
Just a question. The only news I heard about 9th grade being closed tomorrow is through this website. No communication one way or the other from my daughter’s school. She was supposed to be scheduled for orientation tomorrow. Are we going to hear anything official from school, or am I supposed to rely on what I hear in the news?
It sounds like some Askanim or others leak things to the scoop before some of the schools even find out about these things . I would imagine that the schools just found out about it recently and it takes some time to get the announcements out .
it’s mamash a shame these nebach 9 girls had to wait till the very end. The busha that comes with this is a tremendous misfortune. Imagine for a moment your girls has been accepted and the class list is sent out. Then the day before school starts, you hear “oh and so-and-so is also now in the class”. What a nebach busha for the poor girl and her family. They should have resolved this before the summer.
Yes there were a few exclusive cases where the girl, her family or both were makpid about a certain school, but for the most part good girls, from great homes had to struggle to nebach get in.
IYH next, they should resolve this before the summer, and save these girls the scars for life.
Bais Kaila just informed parents that the entire school is closed tomorrow not just ninth grade.
There was not supposed to be school tomorrow. Only orientation, which is continuing as scheduled. Not sure what the news is, school starts on Tuesday!!!
Bais Kaila just canceled school for tomorrow they said if all grades can’t start than none are it’s such a shame something like this should never happen before summer all this should be resolved
That’s why the school I work.in doesn’t give out class list until a week into school.
Most schools only have orientation tom and start tues. R they canceling tom orientation?
@mamamia
I don’t know of ANY school that send classlists before school begins!
(For sure none of the schools my kids attended, and that’s quite a few!)
Not sure which mosdos r closed Tom
But my daughter going into 9th grade has school
Did not hear otherwise
I’m sure if she didn’t have we would hear about it
What about the other schools?
Harry. What school is open tomorrow ? I know people that got robocalls thst there is no school tomorrow.
To Rein, “the only news of having no school you heard is only through this website” didn’t you sign the Internet form that you have no internet? Why are you watching news??
Is there going to be orientation on tues or a full day?
So sad, so sad!
it’s terrible that Hashem’s precious Neshamos/daughter’s are still not in a school.
couldn’t this have been resolved before school starts?
This makes me really sad!
HASHEM PLEASE HELP US!
WE NEED TO RESPECT EACH OTHER,
WE NEED TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER
AND BE THERE FOR EACH OTHER.
HASHEM PLEASE LET THIS ISSUE NOT EXIST NEXT YEAR!
THANK YOU TO THE RABONIM FOR MAKING THE SCHOOLS STAY CLOSED
UNTIL ALL THE NESHAMOS/GIRLS ARE IN A SCHOOL!
What about the pain of waiting all these months without a school to report to your friends?
What about the unwanted feelings these girls will have throughout their high school years?
THE LESSON TO BE LEARNED IS THAT BEFORE ANY ACCEPTANCE LETTERS ARE SENT OUT THE VAAD SHOULD BE SURE THAT EACH NESHAMA WAS CARED FOR!!!
If anyone has a horn to blow and make the pain of these girls heard, please blow it now so that it does not happen again.
You do realize that this is a double edge sword. Any mechanech will tell you that stuffing 37 to 40 or more kids into a class is definitely hurting a large number of neshamos whose future,will be affected because they did not get the proper attention. So you are saving some neshamos by hurting a lot of others. If we really cared ,then we would have made more schools and helped the existing schools afford to have small class sizes . But I guess its easier just to complain about how bad the schools,are instead of actually doing something to solve the problem.Maybe the schools just want to protect the neshamos they were entrusted with and feel that its up to the town to fund more schools for the rest of the neshamos . Just some food for thought .
Do not understand the hold up. Why cant the rosh yeshivas just tell the schools they must take.in certain girls.and thats it. Why the foot dragging. What were selichos supposed to accomplish???
The schools should institute a match system like they do for medical school
All of the prospective students submit a list of schools that they want to attend and rank them by preference (1st choice, 2nd choice etc)
The schools then do the same for the students that they want
The schools get the number of first choices that they have spots available in their classes
If the girl and a school post put “first choice” then she gets in
Then you move onto the second tier of the girls first choice and school says second choice or vice versa
And then you move onto the third tier and so on until everybody’s accounted for
If the schools did a match system , there would be over 150 kids out . The match system is based on a school accepting the number of students they have place for which in our schools is about 25 to 30. After that number the school is full and they stop accepting. The only way the schools in our town end up resolving the problem is for many schools bring forced to take between 38 and 45 per class .With the match system they would never take more than they really have room for.
The match system also depends on every student willing to go to any of the schools in the system . In lakewood ,many parents wont accept some of the schools, . If the parents,would have been required to accept any school, then there wouldn’t be this problem in the first place .
Concerned parent .
The Rosh Yeshivas can only force schools to take more kids if they are the ones helping to fund the schools and making sure they have the funds to make more classes and hire more staff for these extra kids . Since they do not do that, then how can they force schools to take more kids than they are capable of handling ?
I think the match system won’t work because many parents only will apply to and accept schools 1, 2 ,3 and 4 when they might get accepted only to schools 5,6,7, or 8 .
Oros Bais Yaakov is having Oreintation today and school is starting on tim for all even 9th grade
I dont understand the match system .If a student applies to 3 or 4 high schools ,but they don’t get accepted to any of them how will the match system help them ? The other 3 or 4 high schools might accept them ,but they did not apply so those schools didn’t even interview them .
I wonder why so few people are willing to open a high school when there is such a need for them???
Maybe very few people are qualified.
Can the existing schools get funding to hire more teachers and have more classes instead of larger ones? I wish my Daughter’s elementary school would open a high school!! I hope all girls that are affected can get past this trauma and lead a very successful life!! Success in school system does not equal success in life!
This systym is failing and everyone is in denial,most people cant afford the tuitions and our lifestyle poeple r going around like chickens without a head becuse they r under tremendous financial stress and there is not enough schools for our children,something drastically has to change and just stuffing every child into schools wont resolve all the underlying issues we have a systym that many children r going off to derech maybe learning 9 hours a day in Chester is not made for every bit and as a result we r alienating many children from yisdishkeit our children r not an assembly line and the same 10 hour Yeshiva chinuch does not work for everybody and we r all in denial.
The schools should be taken away from private (in many cases, outside) ownership. They are run like a business and cater to their constituents. There should be a single managing body that oversees all the various types of schools who answer to this managing body. This oversight is not concerned with money or “the kavod” of the school heads, but for the chinuch of all Lakewood’s children. This school elites have demonstrated over the years that they can’t be trusted with the responsibility to run these institutions on their own.
To any current or future resident of lkwd: there’s a whole tri state area with many communities large and small where you could choose to live instead and not have to deal with this insanity. Give it some though, your house might not be as big but your life will be so much more peaceful…
@bob, it’s simple. Lakewood was founded around the Yeshiva and hence the Roshai HaYeshiva should dictate what happens in the town for such fundamental things. Time to make Lakewood a Torah town, again!
Many schools are starting today including their 9th grade. Make sure to check with your school. The schools say that they were not contacted by the Roshei Yeshiva regarding this matter.
they should resolve this issue before acceptance letters are sent out. the ones “in charge” know of all girls and where they are going and who has and doesent have places for the following year. why wait till last second!!!!!
Unfortunately it took so many years of this going on and letting the situation escalate till this point. So many kids turned off from it and hurt so badly. The situation needed to be taken care of years ago. Lakewood made it’s own bed sad to say. Can’t be fixed overnight. Schools need to be formed for next year so this won’t happen again we can’t let it go on enough already. My heart goes out to the girls and the parents hashem should give you strength to put it past you and lead a happy life!!!
I liked Lakewood a lot better when it was centered around the yeshiva and we didn’t have all the developments and gashmiusdik stores all over and there was no problem getting kids into school and busing for everyone. I know we can’t stop the building and the people from moving in, but then people shouldn’t complain about the schools. They moved here, now they can figure out what to do.
Not everyone who isn’t placed in a school just moved from Brooklyn.
And many that moved here from outside of Lakewood, the husband is learning or learned in BMG. This is their community too.
I want to publicly thank Rabbi Schenkolewski for keeping the entire Bais Kaila closed until this unfortunate situation comes to an end. איש אחד בלב אחד
No school should start if it does not have all their students partaking in the first day. It shows a tremendous level of Achdus.
The Roshei Yeshivas psak is correct(who am I to say), we live in a beautiful community with people who love and care for others.
No child is better than the other. We all are the Borei olams creation.
Thank you HaShem for a special community and a show of strength and courage during this challenging time.
I”yh will end soon, and we all will go into the yomim Noraim with happiness and health.
Hatzlacha to all of us.
the problem in our school system is, there’s no structure.
If schools had a guideline to folllow to stay open, I’m sure they would.
We should not come to this point. Last year – it was known to all the schools how many eighth graders there are. In turn it’s was known how many schools there are as well as how many will not have a school.
It should be that difficult, to work it out that each girl is placed before the end of they’re eighth grade.
This way it avoids the last minute rush and immeasurable stress on the parents and students.
We can do better. We cannot leave it to the schools. They showed us that they don’t care enough. (Sorry to be blunt)
To my take:
Its not the new ppl that r not getting into high school. They get in right away for some reason. Its the families who’ve been living here in lakewood for yrs that r still waiting
I envy those that have succeeded in stopping this shefichas Damim. Many have tried but it is very complicated. As SY Rechnitz clearly said MONEY ALONE WONT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
To Mr Torah Truth
This is not communism where you can take things,away from people. What you or others,are free to do is to start a community high school that accepts everybody. You can also charge a very low tuition like 2500 per year and then you will automatically get every parent to enroll and the private schools,will all have to close down for lack of students . That sounds like a great idea for somebody like yourself.
Please post a list of any schools that were open today, against the order of the Roshai Yeshiva
I believe unfortunately some schools whent ahead with orientation and might even start school even though the rabonim told them not to…. They can claim they first heard of it on scoop but that’s not true..
Money will absolutely solve the problem. Reliable sources report thst there were very capable people who offered to make community high schools open to accept anybody that the Rosh Yeshivas wanted to accept. They just asked for communal funding ,for which they got a flat no .
To hard truth .
Actually I think the schools care more than you . They are taking in insane class,sizes . They notified the Askanim , Rosh Yeshivas and the community several years ago ajd every year since ,that there was not enough space and they pleaded nd begged for others to make new schools .Those others are you and your friends . What have you actually done to help ?
Hear they say about Lakewood that the girls high schools can’t open till every girl has a school and every Mesivta can’t open til every Mesivta has a boy!
Are they also making a deal about the Mesivta?
There should be no such thing as choosing a school. The vaad should have a list of all the girls going in to Highschool and place them. This would solve a lot of issues.