Advertisements

AUDIO: Message from Lakewood Igud Harabanim for COVID matters

Listen to the message below from Rav Uri Deutch.

-------------

This content, and any other content on TLS, may not be republished or reproduced without prior permission from TLS. Copying or reproducing our content is both against the law and against Halacha. To inquire about using our content, including videos or photos, email us at general@thelakewoodscoop.com.

Stay up to date with our news alerts by following us on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook.

Also join the thousands receiving our Whatsapp Status updates!

Got a news tip? Email us at newstips@thelakewoodscoop.com, or Text/Whatsapp 415-857-2667.

There are 35 Comments to "AUDIO: Message from Lakewood Igud Harabanim for COVID matters"

  • moish says:

    Brilliant! So sick people should stay home and healthy people should go test to lower positivity rates and keep schools and shuls open!

    Love the ingenuity!

  • Anonymous says:

    Can we please make sure the schools comply with the state’s required safety protocols?

  • Chanie S says:

    Hashem Help us. This can and I’m sure will go viral. Test if you don’t have symptoms and stay home if you do? Does that mean that people will quarantine with their families appropriately? Do this so that we can open without “restrictions”? So we are risking people’s lives so our kids aren’t masked in school?
    This is an attempt to get down our insanely high positive rate of infection. This will backfire and the consequences can be fatal CV

  • Clarification says:

    You mention to wear masks in “public places like stores”
    Does “public places” include shuls? If yes, why don’t you say shuls ?

  • Chaim yankel says:

    Wear masks in crowded places. Does a shul qualify because this was conspicuously absent from the message.

  • Whaat says:

    There’s a Vaad for carona now????

  • Moe says:

    The only way that we can reopen schools is if we adhere to the recommendations set by public health experts. Wear masks, spacing the kids out whenever possible, increase ventilation, making sure those who have been exposed to COVID-19 do not come school for 14 days etc… Otherwise the virus will keep spreading. This is the new normal if we want our mosdos to stay open.

  • Worried says:

    Will we hear any guidance on Simchas Torah or will it be the mass spreader event it is slated for. People dancing and singing for hours in small enclosed areas will spark a Covid conflagration. 6 in every 1000 infections will likely pass away. Dozens of others can become very sick. Do we care?

    • Twice worried says:

      You’re worried about Simchas Torah but that’s only the pinnacle.

      What about 4 nights of Simchas Bais Hashoeiva ?? Will BMG cancel theirs or stubbornly make a bogus “no touching hands” rule like on Purim?

      Hope that Roberts won’t be the only one again to have some backbone and cancel the festivities so we can keep our schools and Yeshivos open for learning – Isn’t that what the ultimate goal is in this town? Why shoot ourselves in the foot?

    • Double Worried says:

      What about 4 nights of Simchas Beis Hashoeiva??
      Are they going to get cancelled around town so we can keep our schools and Yeshivos open for Limud Hatorah?
      After all, isn’t that the ultimate goal?

      We saw clearly how much the whole town and Limud Hatorah suffered when we insisted to keep the Purim celebrations going. The no hands touching rules didn’t help whatsoever.

      Let’s act smart.

  • Anonymous says:

    This is the dangerous advice. The govt is NOT our friend. More testing will result in more positive cases which will shut down our schools shuls and stores. Pls stop testing!!

  • Moshe says:

    Chani: lets follow daas Torah. That’s the only way well will succeed. Rabbanim make decisions for the community, not doctors. Doctors inform the Rabbanim. Kol koreis should only be out from Rabbanim. And here you have a recording. Follow. The Torah Tells us to follow Daas Torah even if it seems their telling us Left is Right.

  • Lakewood Driver says:

    Doing this will portray a proper reflection of what’s actually happening in town. And allow us to make proper decisions based on what actually happening. This is not about wreaking the numbers It’s about creating numbers of properly reflect the facts on the ground

  • Face value says:

    I assumed the Rabbi meant that if you have symptoms you should stay home rather than getting tested at a site with many people that will be exposed to you. Stay home and don’t infect others. The testing is to stop the further spread of the virus from people who aren’t quarantining because they don’t have any symptoms. Sounds right to me…

  • Kesha says:

    Brilliant!

  • Anonymous says:

    Moshe- many rabbanim are strongly against these draconian laws. We have daas torah that is telling us not to close our torah institutions and shuls for a virus that has a 99.7% recovery rate. They are urging us not to test because it will only cause us more problems. Masks are scientifically proven to NOT work in stopping the spread of a virus. On the other hand, they are being proven every day that they cause harm. Many stories coming out of people getting sick from masks. Our children do not deserve to be the sacrificial lambs for a virus that doesn’t harm them. Masking kids is child abuse. Period.

    • writer says:

      Your anti-science statement needs to be rebutted.

      There is multiple proof that the correct wearing of masks by a large enough percentage of a population will slow and maybe even prevent the spread of a respiratory disease through the populace. Multiple studies have shown it, and so far the consensus is with that decision.

      Period.

    • Reb Anonymous says:

      You’re misinformed and misguided. Period.

    • S209 says:

      Liar.

      The “recovery rate” is 96%. .65% of people who get this, die. And nearly 4% of people who get this virus will have terrible lasting damage.

      Masks are proven to work. Stop lying and disseminating misinformation.

      There are no stories of people getting sick from masks. Zero. None. Never happened,

  • emes says:

    Anyone in his kehilla should def listen. Everyone else please listen to ur moreh derech. I dont believe all rabbonim and rebbes agree with this recording

  • Sam says:

    Moe wants kids to be spaced out in school. I was always spaced out in school. For many years. Didn’t help me at all.

    • Shua Cohen says:

      Hilarious…best comment I’ve read in weeks! Thanks Sam for the good belly laugh this morning.

  • Question says:

    Why is it that pictures from Lakewood don’t show the yeshiva people wearing masks but out of town pictures do? At this point it seems like a chilul Hashem or at the very least gives lakewood a bad name. Also why would I who has been careful all of these months to wear a mask etc have to test because of the people who didn’t keep the precautions who spread it. I don’t understand the message at all. Please explain the rationale.

  • Abev says:

    I think this is brilliant! I’m unsure what previous commentators are missing here. The idea is based on the fact that those that have symptoms are already quarantined and will not pass the infection to others and those that don’t will get tested so we can weed out those positive without symptoms and have them quarantined as well which would allow the virus to be uprooted over succos and have everything go back to normal after succos. There is no school anyway so what better time to stop the spread and virus in its tracks when we will be home regardless.

  • Mashy says:

    Daas Torah!!
    We are lucky to have Talmidei chachamim to tell us how to deal with a situation that we are really ignorant about. Why are we all of a sudden so eager to follow the advice of the secular leadership? Who exactly do you trust out there? Cuomo? Fauci? Murphy? It makes sense to you??? Who are you?? Who has your best interest in mind? Politicians who have shown their true colors or a rav talmid chcham living among us? If you think about it I think the answer is clear!

    • A concerned Lakewood citizen says:

      No, but maybe we should listen to the frum doctors who are telling us to wear masks and distance. It boggles my mind that we as a community aren’t following basic medical guidelines which are perfectly common sense and which doctors and medical practitioners in our community agree with.

  • Face value says:

    I understood the Rabbi to be saying that if you have symptoms – stay home, as you don’t want to risk infecting others while going to get tested. If you don’t have any symptoms then you should get tested so we can get all the covid positives into quarantine and stop this new outbreak. Makes sense to me.
    Stay safe and be well.

  • Yankel says:

    Look, I don’t care if you are a registered nurse, a self-styled mask expert, or just a professional internet commentator. But if you speak with anyone who knows anything about *public* health, you will know this is the correct approach now.

    First thing you need to know is that tests are limited in number. Ask anyone who tried to get tested and will tell you how long the line is to wait. Because of that,!the people who are testing are self-selecting.

    When you only/mostly test sick people you aren’t gaining much with the tests. These are people who largely know they are sick and should be, as the Rabbonim *correctly* told us earlier, isolating and quarantining either way.

    The way you fix the problem now, rather than after Yomim Tovim is by testing everyone who does *not* know or think they are sick, And testing them now. This will allow these people to find out that they are sick, and even though they didn’t think that little fatigue they have is a mild symptom, they can now be responsible about it. They will isolate and quarantine and no longer be running around and infecting others.

    Doing this now, rather than later, allows us to get a substantial number of sick people who know they are sick to stop infecting other people over Yomim Tovim, and that will allow Mosdos to reopen after Yomim Tovim without having to worry about many more positive cases.

  • Anonymous says:

    @ Mashy Please don’t mix up Fauci with Coumo and Murphy. Fauci is probably one of the top Infectious Disease doctors in the world.

  • Twice worried says:

    You’re worried about Simchas Torah but that’s only the pinnacle.

    What about 4 nights of Simchas Bais Hashoeiva ?? Will BMG cancel theirs or stubbornly make a bogus “no touching hands” rule like on Purim?

    Hope that Roberts won’t be the only one again to have some backbone and cancel the festivities so we can keep our schools and Yeshivos open for learning – Isn’t that what the ultimate goal is in this town? Why shoot ourselves in the foot?

  • moshe says:

    anonymous: Each Rov has his opinion. You follow your rov. I didn’t say kids should wear a mask. Just follow your rov. Each Rov has the right to say Dass Torah

  • moshe says:

    anonymous: Each Rov has his opinion. You follow your rov. I didn’t say kids should wear a mask. Just follow your rov. Each Rov has the right to say Dass Torah. If your Rov says you don’t have to wear a mask. Don’t. I never judge anyone whose wearing or not wearing. They each have what to rely on.

  • yid says:

    I don’t care if it is the right thing to do or the wrong thing to do. But we need to do everything possible to avoid shutting down the schools. If this is the only way to get the govt to allow us to keep our schools open, so be it.